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About training

Hello po

Yung po bang training sa company wala po allowance and kahit po wala pa pass (kakaapply lang) pwede na magwork? And innapply po pass ng wala pa pinipirmahan na contract.

Advice po

Maraming salamat
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  • Pwede ka lang magstart ng work pag issued na ung pass mo.
  • Training daw po.. How about training naman
  • Kht pa training. Ano po work mo?
  • Admin Assistant po. Tsaka wala pa contract pero innapply na ng pass
  • @mdavs63 - bawal yan. no pass, no work. kahit training pa. pag nahuli ka deport ka.
  • Ayun nga po problem and wala po contract pa pero ipinasok na yung application
  • Bawal po yan, kahit training dapat may pass. Kapag nag work ka ng walang pass kahit training pa yan, wala sila obligation to pay you dahil wala ka naman work pass, illegal worker ka. Kaya kahit di ka na nila bayaran.
    May mga scam cases na ganyan, kailangan lang nila ng temporary/short-term worker for menial work kaya kukuha sila ng turista sasabihin "training" bago i-apply ng work pass. Pero pinapagtrabaho na, kapag tapos na ung trabaho eh sasabihin wala quota or rejected. Edi naka libre sila? Di ka maghahabol dahil una bakit ka pumayag mag trabaho ng walang pass, illegal ka, may liability ka din ngayon.

  • what should I do if pabalikin ako for training daw?
  • Edi sabihin nyo po na need mo po ng pass before ka magtraining as per MOM... tama po si @tambay7 ... iwas iwas na lang po tayo sa kung ano mang mga bagay na ikakapamahak pa natin. :wink:
  • maraming salamat po sa advice :)
  • how about naman po yung case na inapply na pass pero wala naman contract na pinirmahan? sensya na po dami tanong
  • @mdavs63 some companies need training, some also got paid. maybe yours only few days? then just do training either paid or unpaid.
  • @mdavs63 sure ka po bang inaapply ka na po ng pass ni employer?. . ndi ba po may application form na pinapafill-up don? sorry kasi ako ndi ko pa din naeexperience yan since applicant p lang din ako gaya mo heheeh..
  • edited March 2018
    Pwede ka naman sumipot sa "training" kung desidido ka talaga, pero wag ka mag expect ng bayad or allowance dahil di ka naman empleyado dahil wala naman kontrata at work pass na nag bi-bind ng employer-employee relationship niyo.
    At wag ka din mag expect na guaranteed na yung pass application at approval mo, kasi pwede naman nila bawiin yung verbal agreement niyo after ng supposed "training" na actual clerical, administrative, menial or even professional work in some cases.

    Sinabi ba sayo anong klaseng tasks ba mga gagawin mo during training?, kung actual work tasks na yung ipapagawa sayo eh lugi ka.

    Yun kasi yung point / essence ng contract at work pass, protected at may guarantee ka as an employee. Otherwise, eh naglalaro lang kayo.
  • @carpejem inaalala ko po kasi wala pa naman po pass.

    @buBbles yup pending po status ng application ko chineck ko po online.. Ano innaapplyan mo?
  • @tambay7 actual work na po yung pinapagawa sa akin.. katulad po ng sinabi nyo illegal worker po labas ko medyo worried lang po ako dun. opo about sa pass application din po baka kasi bigla nila bawiin after..
  • @mdavs63 sa Accounting and Finance sector po.. mainam naman pala.. wait mo na lang muna kaya ung pass mo bago ka magtraining? may ganyan ako last year pinapagtry ako tapos saka isusbmit ang pass after a month pa, syempre sabi ko need ko ng pass kahit na babayaran pa nya ako.. :smile:
  • "how about naman po yung case na inapply na pass pero wala naman contract na pinirmahan? sensya na po dami tanong"

    @mdavs63 - kabayan - fyi lang. pumirma ako ng kontrata after lumabas result ng spass application ko.
  • wala ding sense pumirma ng kontrata kung marereject din lang ang pass application. MOM pa din kasi ang may last say.
  • @Kebs ah I see po. Pasensya na po kasi first time ko po magwork dito sa SG. Salamat.

    @buBbles kamusta naman po pagaapply? Ganun na nga lang po wait ko po pass bago magtraining/work. Mahirap na din po sumugal kung walang pass 'no tapos magstart na magwork..
  • @mdavs63 actually mahirap heheh sobra hirap.. nagwewait ako ng status ng quota dun sa company na kumontak sakin. this week ko ipafollow-up hehe.. opo tingin ko mas mainam po yon.. god bless sayo :blush:
  • edited March 2018
    Sadly po di na po natulot yung application (withdrawn) ako po nagbayad ng fee, refundable ba yun? Salamat

    Di po nagrereply yung employer eh.
  • nakoo @mdavs63 sad to hear that po.. hmmn bakit po kaya?.. ano last nyo conversation?
  • nagbayad ka? para saan?
  • Anong fee? Wala ka dpt bayaran.
  • Yung pong processing fee.
  • Processing fee sa pass application? Di mo obligation un. Employer babayad nun.
  • Ayun nga po ako pinagbayad.. Hayaan ko na lang.. Di na po nagrereply eh.
  • @mdavs63 questions lang to be clear:
    1. nanghingi sila ng fee sayo to pay for the pass application fee? na confirm mo ba na sinubmit nga nila yung application at naibayad nila yung fee sa mom?
    2. gano katagal lumipas mula ng magbayad ka ng fee at ng sinabihan ka na withdraw nila yung application?

    Duda lang kung na submit ba talaga nila at yung fee na binayad mo eh umabot ba sa mom, kasi kung hindi eh parang na pocket nila yung pera? Di kaya yun ang intention from the start? Agency ba yan?

  • @tambay7 yes po nanghingi sila ng fee after isubmit that was friday last week po march 9 then this monday po nagwithdraw sya ng application ko nagmsg sya sa whatsapp. Hindi po agency, direct hire po.
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