Would you go back to PH to work?

thematrix

If may offer kayo sa pinas na same salary dito sa SG (minus na ang tax sa pinas)... would you want to take it or not? why?

maya

syempre. mas masarap tumira sa sariling bansa at ksama pamilya. lalo na karamihan naman satin kaya nagabroad ay dahil maliit sweldo sa Pinas. although nung maranasan ko quality ng buhay dito sa sg, kung gano kaconvenient ang transport system dto, gano ka-safe ang buhay at paligid, etc, these reasons make me want to stay though. but at the end of the day, nkadpende pa rin yan sa priorities ng bawat isa satin.

carpejem

@thematrix a no-brainer yes! reason (family and less stress)

geneFlynn

para saken kulang pa yung dahil sa sahod lang, sahod mo nga ganto pero yung stress sa transport, laki ng bawas ng tax at bagal ng internet, di mo nga kasama pamilya mo pero sg to ph 4 hours lang pwede sila pumunta dito o ikaw umuwi, kausap araw araw via internet. pero depende pa din sayo yan.

ladytm02

The answer depends on why you chose to work here.

One of my main reasons (besides sahod) is the traffic situation sa pinas. Papasok pa lang ako, mukha na akong pauwi. Stress sa byahe, stress sa trabaho (hello OTY culture), stress sa budget. Kung sasahod ako ng kasing halaga ng sinasahod ko ditto sa SG, babalik ako sa pinas tapos bibili/magrerent ako ng condo malapit sa workplace ko. Hindi ko yan nagawa non kasi pag magrent ako ng flat sa Makati, ala na matitira sa sahod ko (nope I don't like sharing!). Tapos gusto mo pa sympre meron kang pagkain na luto ni nanay, high speed internet (na provision sa bahay mo lang tlaga), cable, etc etc. Hindi kasya!

Kaya ako umalis, sabi ko sa sarili ko, nagpapakahirap na rin lang ako eh don na ko sa mataas na sahod at masarap na buhay. Hindi ako nagkamali ng desisyon.

bobong

Baka hindi na, medyo mataas na kasi hairline ko, nakakahiya baka makasalubong ko mga ex gelpren ko. Sasabihin, anyare???? Hahaha

Kebs

@thematrix kung kapitbahay ko opisina sa Pinas, yes. Kung bbyahe ako tulad ng dati, QC to Makati, no way LOL.

Tanginang trapik sa pinas eh. Kakauwi ko lang few weeks ago, 2.5 hours ako inabot NAIA to QC.

lhetski

Yes na Yes.

Vincent17

pag siguro tapos na ung mga skyway pwede kana umuwi..

sa ngayon perwisyo sa trapik kahit may sariling tsikot..

kabo

sa parehong sweldo, pinas na ako 101%

jessy10

@ladytm02 nakarelate ako dun sa papasok ka pa lang haggard ka na

maya

maalala ko pa lang pano magcommute, ayoko na balikan sumasakay pako ng colorum na fx para medyo convenient, pero pinababa kmi half way dhl may nanghuhuli. jusko no choice kundi magjeep. sobrang late na, nangigitim pa kuko ko at puru libag na leeg dhl sa pawis at alikabok hahaha.

kabo

@maya kaya nung Pinas ako, hindi ako nag-apply sa manila. mahirap ang byahe. pero kung ang kapalit ay kasama pamilya, pwede na lalo't pareho ang kita

thematrix

@maya hahaha.. tama naman lahat ng sinabi ng mga dito tungkol sa traffic going to makati... isa din yun sa problem lalo na kapag "ber" months...

Kaya ko lang naman natanong kasi kakabalik ko lang dito sa SG after 2 months, nag break lang muna ako kasama family ko.. now ako nalang nandito and after probationary iniisip ko if ill bring my family here again... Or probably ill work 6 months lang dito at mag-apply nalang sa pinas kasi parang mahirap pala if malayo sa asawa at anak...

Matagal tagal na rin kc ako dito sa SG mag 10 yrs na. pero my son is just 22 months kaya parang iba compare ng wala ka pang anak...

bobong

@Thematrix mahirap pag may baby kana. Naranasan ko dati yan. Nung nag stay ang family ko sa pinas, para akong magkakasakit lagi, di ko alam kung guni guni ko lang yun...

thematrix

@bobong - yep totoo, mindset din.. iniisip ko pwde naman ako makauwi over the weekend para hindi nakaka-stress kakaisip. May friend din ako 1st time nyang mag-abroad yung anak nya mga around 12 years old na, nagkaroon sya ng depression... kaya yun after 6 months umuwi na rin.

adobecc

I would rather migrate sa canada, Aus or NZ and get my family. Work is not a problem pero yung long-term benefits ang habol ko like free medical, security, free school, child benefits, etc. Hirap mgPR dito sa SG so I better settle nlng sa ibang bansa. wla ng pagasa ang pilipinas kht cnong presidente pa ang umupo. Ang rason kung bkt tayo bblik kc andun pamilya ntn and there is no place like home ika nga. Kung malaki nmn na naipon mo at may business, bhay at kotse kna then u can go back sa PH.

thematrix

@adobecc - I agree on the long term benefits ng AU or NZ.. madami na rin pinoy ako na officemate na nagmigrate.. The only thing I don't like is the ticket ng AU and NZ is expensive compared sa SG... Like sa SG even every month pwde ako makauwi compare to AU and NZ hindi ko magagawa yun... though kaya nga dadalin mo family mo para hindi ka uwi ng uwi hehehe...

isorn4x

Kung plan mo mag mgrate. Magkano estimate budget mo dapat bago mag magrate sa canada, NZ and AU? Para makapag umpisa na din mag ipon.

RDG

Pwede nako umuwi sa Pinas (cos, I'm working from home) and get the same salary , but chose to stay mainly because of the tax. Even nagwowork si wife dito, she can give up her work kung maganda ang tax system satin sa Pinas. The tax I will be spending will be way over our monthly expenses here in SG including house rental. So, yes, that 35% tax rate is ridiculously high na pinag isipan at nag compute kaming mabuti, but if not for that tax, we are more than willing to go back home. For now stay muna and wait until the tax system satin gets better.

thematrix

@RDG - yep true mataas tax sa pinas but if you work remotely you don't have to pay tax in PH, you just pay the tax in SG as per company kung saan ka employed, not unless they will change your employment to PH.

I did work remotely before and may tax is just sg, I just need to be in SG for certain period of time dahil may required ang SG gov if you are working here to stay certain number of days / year.

RDG

@thematrix , believe me, inexplore namin ito. And you dont want to tax evade, thats a no-no. Then, yes, I can retain my pass here, and get the salary here and so on, but looking long-term, too much at stake. My company is not based in SG, and baka masilip pa na I'm earning here and staying most of my time in Phils. There's a work around, but my gut-feel says its illegal to do it that way, so Im sticking to what is morally right. Again, magkakaiba naman tayo ng pananaw sa legality and morality, kaya me and my wife decided to stay. Not complaining though, SG is good. No traffic, low tax, and can apply for Visa easily. Travel the world! hehe.

thematrix

No you are not tax evading, I presume your company is registered in SG but doesn't have a full office setup, more likely what shell companies are doing. They hire you thats why you got a pass here (not unless they apply your pass under an agency or PR ka but still IRAS and MOM knows it), then you just need to pay the tax in SG (since you have a pass and IRAS).

Anyway if that works for you then well and good.

Marami din kasing digital nomads they work/stay in boracay that I've met and talked, some are freelancers and some are fully employed (remotely working) and they pay tax based on the country they are employed. I understand naman what you mean alam mo naman sa Pinas yung nasa lugar ka na nga gagawan ka pa rin ng butas (corruption) so mas maigi lumagay sa safe.

RDG

Yup, they are registered here but HQ is overseas, so wla talagang physical office. They offered me to do that way, but sabi ko nga, too much at stake. Madaming loop holes na pwedeng mabutasan, and worst case is sasabihin nila na since nsa Pinas ka na naman, might as well send the salary to Philippine bank, and that would be the start of the 35%. lol. Well, me and my wife are still happy sa SG, kaya nga no regrets. I can just go to Pinas every now and then, without applying for Leave, so no complains at all.

thematrix

Ahh yun nga, thats better na dito mo sinabi na nagwowork ka...

Yep mas ok tlga if kasama family.

goblinsbride

just to anwer threadstarter's question...i would go back! iba pa rin sa pinas with family.