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Google niyo lang :
"CONDO DEVELOPER NAME reviews"
"CONDO DEVELOPER NAME complaints"
or check niyo sa www.skyscrapercity.com for feedbacks makikita niyo naman at makapag decide kayo bago kayo bumili.
for Sales Agents naman, sabihan niyo din yung mga boss niyo at yung property management office na aksyunan yung mga complaints ng mabilis para di na aabot online, di naman magkaka apoy kung walang baga, hindi niyo ma dis-discount yung mga complaints online dahil halos valid naman lahat. At tratuhin ng maayos ang mga homeOWNERS, even after sales. Yes it may not be part of your job anymore, pero it will make your job easier kung yung management office ng condo ay maayos ang trabaho at response time sa mga homeowners.
Regarding the fees, we always disclose all the fees po sa client dahil ayaw naming babalikan kami at sasabihin na "hindi mo sinabi na ganito pala ang babayaran namin" Sinasabi din namin ang monthly association fees. Lahat ng ito po ay binabangit namin during the final meeting with a client. I also want to give an advice regarding this po. Dapat po talaga na ito ay tinatanong ng client sa isang agent and obligasyon din po ng agent na idisclose lahat lahat. Pero minsan, masakit man isipin, may iba na hindi ito ginagawa for the sake na makabenta lang kahit na hindi qualified ang isang bumibili...
Kung may kulang pa po ako sa sagot, please kindly let me know. I am not here to argue. I am here to enlighten everyone.
"for Sales Agents naman, sabihan niyo din yung mga boss niyo at yung property management office na aksyunan yung mga complaints ng mabilis para di na aabot online, di naman magkaka apoy kung walang baga, hindi niyo ma dis-discount yung mga complaints online dahil halos valid naman lahat. At tratuhin ng maayos ang mga homeOWNERS, even after sales. Yes it may not be part of your job anymore, pero it will make your job easier kung yung management office ng condo ay maayos ang trabaho at response time sa mga homeowners." - Yes, we always inform our boss and the right people if there are any complaints coming from our clients. However, thank you for your suggestion.
"will have its own testing... Leakage, electric, ect. Tinetesting din po ang mga sprinklers, fire detectors and cctvs before the actual turnover. Lahat po ng nabangit nyo ay tinetesting before the actual turnover."
pwedi ba malaman kung meron representative from the government or private sector habang ginagawa nyo ang testing or kayo kayo lang?
pwedi rin po ba malaman kung magkano yung maintenance/monthly association fees?
at least syo nrin nangaling meron talaga mga agent hindi sinasabi lahat para lang makabenta at sapalagay ko dun ng-start ang problema..
Btw if ganto palang tong page na to. Mostly close minded person? Maski magkabenta pa ko. Wag na lang. Goodluck in working all your years.. Be a prison of your own self.
Sorry but i was shocked how very insensitive ng kapwa pilipino to a pinoy posting/advertising his event. Its just an invitation guys. If your keen then go, if not u dont need to say those kind of things?
Pinoy nga naman talaga.
@SMDCRealEstate take note dala mo pangalan ng company mo, wag ka masyado arrogant, that's not how you persuade a client..
Hahaha.. Nevermind my post. Not sure if pinoysg group ba talga to. Not sure too if you even have your own condo properties para sabihin as if u know it first hand. I have a condo in SMDC and in AYALA LAND. The styles of selling of the agents might be true but you telling that buying a real estate property is not a good investment? Gosh. Pls bago magsalita isip isip muna.
who cares kung meron ka condo sa SMDC at AYALA LAND.
ganyan attitude ba gsto mo parating sa mga tao imbis na you prove them wrong,
yayabangan mo pa.. sana lang Makita ng SMDC post mo..
nothing wrong to warn the buying public, grabe naka bili (nakapag loan) ng condo biglang smarter and better person na than the rest? Closeminded and prisoner na agad ng ownself dahil lang sa hindi nag agree sa yo. Yan ang tunay na "Pinoy nga naman"
Imbis na sagutin mo yung points one by one gaya ng ginawa ni Travis, eh biglang nasa taas ka na at nasa baba na bigla yung mga hindi nag agree sayo, porket hindi bumili ng condo mo eh wala ng pambili, bobo na pag dating sa investments?
It is wiser and smarter to understand where you are investing than just allowing yourself to be cajoled by sales agents and marketers. Nothing bad to teach and warn people to be SMARTER on choosing their investments, unlike some people na puro nice words and flattery basta lang maka benta at maka kuha commission.
yan din sinasabi ng mga marketer, sales bago bumagsak stock market nung 2008 dahil sa US Real State bubble, sabi nila Rock Solid daw ang Housing market, who bets against the housing market? sabi pa nila, never bababa continous lang ang pag taas, well remind me again what happened then?
Hahaha.. Nevermind my post. Not sure if pinoysg group ba talga to. Not sure too if you even have your own condo properties para sabihin as if u know it first hand. I have a condo in SMDC and in AYALA LAND. The styles of selling of the agents might be true but you telling that buying a real estate property is not a good investment? Gosh. Pls bago magsalita isip isip muna. - YES PINOYSG GROUP TALAGA ITO. ANO BA ANG EXPECTATION MO SA PINOYSG GROUP?
Btw if ganto palang tong page na to. Mostly close minded person? Maski magkabenta pa ko. Wag na lang. Goodluck in working all your years.. Be a prison of your own self. - MAS NAGIGING WISE LANG ANG MGA TAO DITO KAYA MATANONG AND MADUDA. HINDI NAMAN IBIG SABIHIN CLOSED-MINDED AGAD. SYEMPRE LONGTERM GOAL YAN KAYA PAG IISIPAN TALAGA. PAWIS AT DUGO ANG PUHUNAN NATIN LALO NA NG MGA OFW PARA KUMITA KAYA TAMA LANG NA MAGING MAPANALIKSIK.
Sorry but i was shocked how very insensitive ng kapwa pilipino to a pinoy posting/advertising his event. Its just an invitation guys. If your keen then go, if not u dont need to say those kind of things? -
NAG POST KA SO EXPECTED MO MERONG MGA POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE COMMENTS, MAS MAINAM KUNG MARUNONG KA TUMANGGAP NG CRITICISM AT INSTEAD NA MAGALIT KA EH LALO MONG KUMBINSIHIN NA PUMUNTA. HINDI LANG YUNG MGA NAGCOCOMMENT DITO ANG NAGBABASA NG THREAD NA ITO. MARAMING SILENT READERS NA MAAARING MAKITA ANG EDGE MO SA IBA AT PUMUNTA SA INVITATION MO. PERO DAHIL SA WAY NG PAGSAGOT MO EH EWAN KO NA LANG
Pinoy nga naman talaga. - DEPENDE SA TAO YAN.
NAGGENERALIZE KA NA KAGAD DAHIL LANG SA COMMENT NG MGA TAO DITO.
Can I ask you, MR JOHN REGISON TALUSAN, a.k.a. @SMDCRealEstate - do you think you owe the OFWs of this forum an apology for insulting us? Y'know considering nananahimik kami dito at ikaw ang nag isotorbo samin? And then to hurl insults at one of the key OFW market segments that helps keep developers afloat....tsk tsk tsk.
Please kindly apologise. Otherwise I will demand it from your employer myself. Thank you po.
JOHN TALUSAN here with phone number 6582863586 (wow exact same number go figure!) has been busy promoting "5% appreciation of SMDC properties every 15 days because of the development. Invest now or you'll be late!!"
My gosh.. 5% every 15 days... really? wow. I must be so closed minded to think that this line is a LOAD OF BULLSHIT. tsk tsk tsk. Maybe I need to be more educated.
Hello sir @popoy Good morning. Sa mga inspections po ng ating building, lagi po may kasamang representative from the government po at the same time meron din own testings/inspections si DMCI.
Regarding naman po sa monthly dues natin, we are ranging from 30 to 50 pesos per sqm + tax.
Baka may kulang sa sagot ko, please kindly let me know. Thank you very much and have a blessed day to everyone.
You are hereby given until 20th August midnight to formally apologise to this group for insulting SG OFWs.
If we do not hear from you, I am going to call SMDC and Ayala myself on Monday morning 21st August to lodge a formal complaint against you. I will also lodge a complaint against you to both HLURB / PRC (if you have a broker's license, or the registered broker you're working under) as well as to the CEA in SG - you are reminded that foreigners selling overseas properties in SG are bound by the same ethical standards as those who sell properties locally.
How dare you insult me, OFWs in SG and call us prisoners of our own selves.
Hayaan mo na siya, kailangan kumita eh, hope na lang na maging learning opportunity sa kanya to.
akala kasi niya eh sapat na yung spiels and training na provided ng developer, eh nakatapat siya ng mga mas nakakaunawa sa investment at sa market conditions na mga OFW dito sa SG.
Sabi nga ni Elsa, Let it go!
Anyway - I would like to commend how neutral tambay7 sounds on his comments, smart buyers always RESEARCH products before they buy it, and I guess that's how it should always be.
I don't want to come to the rescue of my fellow co-worker, as I don't know him personally, but yeah it do sound arrogant considering I am on a 3rd person POV.
Now I want to refute points made by @Suddenly_Susan - but as a sales person I wanted to say some truths on the previously mentioned comments. You are probably true on one point, our previous projects sucked at design, bigtime, I am personally not a fan of how it looks but having gone to their lobbies/amenities I find MOA projects well maintained - I speak for Shell in particular. So you see there are sellers like us which provides information as is.
I always make it to the point to mention that SMDC is an evolving developer, just like any other developers, that work on their mishaps, you mentioned one project in Tagaytay, which is sadly a joint venture, if you also googled that. There might be problems on that considering SMDC might have to work on certain limitations as well as financial mitigation. I am saying considering SMDC is owned by Henry Sy practicality comes as a primary factor in building these projects.
I know the field of Real Estate has been prodded by so much "upsellers" who value more the commission they receive than to really guide our OFWs, I agree with the cautioning part. But I find it also unfair that people stereotype agents and all the projects made by one developer. I personally don't sell projects I don't believe in, because I respect people's hard earned money. I show my client's old prices to establish price increases over the year, with this part I am confident that MOA is a highly profitable location- selling 3M on April 2016, now it is priced 4.8M August 2017.
So to recap, my point here is, amongst different developers and such, it makes the whole investment thing bearable if you find the right agent. While I agree some of our projects are too plain looking, I do believe there's a better way to say it @Suddenly_Susan, and as bad as it sounds, he probably just answered you back with the same tone you started the replies with.
Backstory: I sat with a client with another friend, Client wants to buy because the location is an up and coming place, another friend start blabbing negative stuff on how there is gonna be tsunami, it's not safe. You see she probably didn't intend to do sourgraping, but for me it sounded so much like it, because she cannot afford to have one due to the unnecessary stuff you spend your money for i.e. gambling, signature bags, impulse buying etc etc.
TL;DR: The invitation was for the faith of meeting people who might want to attend the event, He went on here to find one, carefully composing the stuff he will post, just for the hopes of finding someone who might want to buy a project. He gets laughed on, humiliated, you poke his ego, and now he's poking yours back, how'd you react is basically to save your own pride, same way he did. He didn't mean to insult you, it was to save face from the embarrassment, and probably from killing the vibe he had before he went to this forum. Tell you this, he wasn't lying about the 5%, starting June, we had a series of 6 price increase of 250,000 every 10-15 days. You probably didn't know that, that's fine.
I only sell 2 projects of SMDC, both of them are under the premier branding- which will take 4 years before it is built, I had hopes that choosing this project, I will maintain circle of clients who will be forever grateful I guided them to the right investment. I didn't ask for downpayment ever because I believe they should use their money elsewhere.
The last and ultimate piece I want to tell everyone is, everyone's fighting their own battles, so it's better if we stay kind to each other. There is a better way on how to say things @Suddenly_Susan , to @SMDCRealEstate - Understand that there are a lot of incompetent sellers from our developer, and don't take it personally. We came from a corrupt country and that culture is rotting some of our co-workers, prove them wrong and speak better for the most of us. I wish you luck to our event!
For all the readers out there, I will make a crude comparison about developers. This one is a personal research/experience thing. Make this as a reference if ever one decides to buy a property in the near future.
DMCI - As a DMCI owner myself, I think you should get this one if aesthetics/design tops your list and you're really living on it. And as you all know, Consuji stemmed out from Ayala so construction wise- it comes close second to Ayala. Biggest Pros: Design and Cuts, sobrang laki ng cuts.
For the cons, I can't reiterate this myself, locations are 50/50. They skimped on that part, because hey, sizes this much also comes with a hefty pricetag to the government. So yun mga agent na nagsasabing investment to, please lang. Sobrang alanganin ng locations ng 80% ng projects nyo, maski akong agent na, hindi makakuha ng renters kahit sa unit pa ng Tita ko, nag rerent sakin friends ko lang na kakilala ko. Some projects, may madadaanan kang ghetto area. So sobrang tagal ng appreciation ng projects dito. Fact.
Sa mga referrers diyan, DMCI doesn't have a way to directly pay clients that refer, so lalabas sa agent yun, hindi ka na bibigyan ng commission.
Ayala- as a previous employee myself, this brand exudes exclusivity and I guess that's what they pay their premium for. I have left ayala due to the fact that their prices, have gone way up. I am a fan of The Fort/Nuvali projects since they are very nice. Community developments is one of Ayala's best selling factor. It's not a myth when they said 4,000/sqm ang Nuvali last time and now it is 18,000/sqm. So it is definitely an investment.
Pros: Area development is superb, talagang nag aappreciate yung prices. Can't say much about their designs as I came from Avida.
Cons: Management is stricter than usual, so I know a few friends na don't rent out their units at all. Strict documentation, which makes it unsuitable for online transactions. Madaming requirement beforehand.
Robinson's Residences/Homes: I think this one is kind of simple, they have a history of unfinished projects.
Century Properties: They have been selling backdated projects. Turned over 5-6 years ago, bihira mag new project, for reasons I don't know. Agents are also kind of shady talking about refundable reservation fee, etc. etc. not true. Some projects are too high-end for an investment.
Megaworld: Sobrang high-end din. I also have heard stories about turnover fee which agents asks for? But not really going to the developer.
Lastly SMDC. I made a hard choice before transferring to this developer. I was definitely not a fan of design and cuts. Maliit and sobrang plain. But then the biggest takeaway from this developer is that, SMDC is multi-faceted business owner, so to actually develop the area will come as a breeze. Yun ang advantage ni SM for me. If OFWs want passive income na tipong si SM na ang bahala, im proud to say I made the right choice. I acquired 2 properties from them sa sobrang sold ko. Yun rental, may walk-ins talaga. Pero MOA location lang ang binebenta ko, then I only sell projects from 4 years ago. I visited them and parang condotel talaga, mas maganda ang maintenance ng building for me. Sobrang affordable din ng monthly.
May system din sila na for referrals, if you wanna share income opportunities sa client mo to help them with their investment, just make sure nai-pass ng agents nyo yun accreditation and SM will only deposit directly to you bawal nilang kunin.
Ang pinaka tip ko lang talaga sa buyers is, maghanap kayo ng matinong agent. Pag humihingi ng downpayment, wag kayo maniwala, because they only want their commissions fast, warning sign na yun na aalis sila agad at hindi na maattendan ang mga needs nyo. Pag too good to be true at talagang binobola na kayo, umiwas na din. Sa tagal ng pagtayo ng condo sa atin, walang sense mag down ng 20%, gamitin nyo yun perang yun on other investment like stocks, mutual funds, bayaran nyo lang yun minimum monthly. No bearing naman magbayad ng down, commission lang ni agent yun, walang advantage kay buyer.
Tuloy pa ba yung kainan para malaman na kung sino mas matino. hehehe ......
@AhKuan haha! Grabe, pumunta nalang kayo. Mostly din naman ng pinoy dun nakikikain lang. Kayo naman, alam na namen yan!
@KuroKy Yun naman pala. Alam na kung ano talaga pakay doon. Mga what time po matatapos yung talk at magsisimula yung kainan? Matino po akong kausap. hehehe. Takits.
@popoy You mean organizer namin? Team leads lang yun usually.
Yung bag pang tapaw kung sakaling may tira pa. Hehehe....